I guess each case should be looked at individually. My thinking about the one discussed on TV, is that if it had happened once, and the husband had made sure that it never happened again by either not drinking at all, or by making sure he never got that drunk, I would say yeah, he made a mistake and he’s doing everything he can to make it right. But since it’s happened more than once, he’s still drinking enough to cause it, and even more important, he always makes sure the children aren’t there to see it happen… That’s not a sudden loss of control. So to my mind, it then becomes black and white.

Adam – Nope, Knoppix is the full tested version… Not sure what it was… Cluster technology eh… You know what I like… :wiggles:
Good to know that people will still stand against that kind of thing, although I’m not sure if beating him up really solves anything…

bittrsweet – Nickelback are great… I must normally have gone off to bed by the time you get online… We keep missing each other, but then I have to :-zzz sometime!
Yeah it’s strange how most people are horrified at wife beating, yet if it’s the husband being abused, people tend to laugh and snigger about it. They forget that abuse is abuse, it’s like bullying, women can be just as bad as men. The bigger portion of the abuse is fear, more than actual violence itself!

I’m sorry to hear about your brother… That’s another thing that annoys me, how much siblings can do to each other, or have done to them, that is “acceptable” because “children will be children” or “they’re just playing”. Just because you are related to someone doesn’t mean that they can be a vicious little thug or an outright bully!

i DO agree with you 100%

there aren’t that many people that actually follow through with what ya said though. I believe that any type of abuse is intolerable. My uncle and his ex wife were alcoholics. They’d beat eachother up a lot.. but it had gotten REALLY bad. One night she went to leave, she was getting into his car but wouldn’t get out. he had to pull her out.. she fell then called the cops. He got into trouble with the cops.. this whole thing. He had a black eye and she didn’t have ANYTHING.. yet he’s the one with a record? i thought that was soo ****ed up. It’s an issue people don’t care to address because they think it’s a joke… when really women are fully capable to do the same amount of damage.

Growing up my brother used to beat me up when nobody else was home. He was twice my size.. he’d lay on me n strangle me until i almost passed out.. no really heh.. and hit my head into stuff. Nobody really seemed to care no matter what i said because it was “normal sibling stuff” YEAH RIGHT. i still hold it against him and my entire family. now whenever i wrestle friends if they lay on me like he used to i kinda flip out. It also went on about the same time my uncle was having his problems.. funny how everyone in the family paid attention to that yet completely blocked my situation out because my brother’s the favorite grandchild or however you wanna put that. anyhoo.. didn’t mean to ramble on. Just proving that it happens in every situation possible and it should NEVER be tolerated. it has more of an affect on people then they’d like to believe

once in exreme circumstances.. but never again

ok im out
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jas